S v Pakkies

JurisdictionSouth Africa
JudgePickering AJ
Judgment Date06 September 1985
Citation1985 (4) SA 592 (TkS)
Hearing Date06 September 1985
CourtTranskei Supreme Court

Pickering:

The accused in this case is charged with murder. B Before the case was called this afternoon, it inadvertently came to my knowledge that the accused had been brought to Court in chains and leg-irons for consultations with his counsel. I may add that neither Mr Bam, for the accused, nor Mr Badenhorst, for the State, were responsible for bringing this matter to my attention.

I accordingly informed counsel that, for the reasons set out in C S v Stevens 1961 (3) SA 518 (C), with which I am in respectful and full agreement, it would be wrong for me to hear the case.

Both counsel are in agreement that in the circumstances of this case the matter should be postponed for hearing before another Court.

Before doing so, however, there is another matter which I must D deal with and that is one raised by Mr Bam. He informs me that he requested the prison warders who accompanied the accused to remove the chains and leg-irons from the accused in order to enable him to consult with the accused in a free and relaxed atmosphere. They refused to do so. The issue was then referred E to certain higher authorities in the Department of Prisons but Mr Bam's request was again met with a refusal.

Mr Bam stated that in the circumstances he would not, as a matter of principle, consult with the accused until such time as the chains and leg-irons were removed.

In my view, Mr Bam's attitude is a very proper and correct one. An accused person should be able to consult with his legal F advisers free of any constrictions upon his person and in an atmosphere which enables both his legal adviser and himself to speak...

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4 practice notes
  • S v Maputle and Another
    • South Africa
    • Invalid date
    ...1961 (4) SA 752 (A): referred to C S v Mthembu and Others 1988 (1) SA 145 (A): dicta at 155C - D & 155G - H applied S v Pakkies 1985 (4) SA 592 (TkS): referred to S v Papiyana 1986 (2) PH H115 (A): applied S v Rens 1996 (1) SACR 105 (CC) (1996 (1) SA 1218; 1996 (2) BCLR 155): dictum in para......
  • S v Maputle and Another
    • South Africa
    • Supreme Court of Appeal
    • 26 March 2003
    ...called as a witness, shall be asked whether he has been so convicted.' [5] For example, S v Stevens 1961 (3) SA 518 (C); S v Pakkies 1985 (4) SA 592 (TkS). [6] Although contained in a minority judgment, the passage quoted accords with the view of the majority. See also Key v Attorney-Genera......
  • Senator Versekeringsmaatskappy Bpk v Sibeko
    • South Africa
    • Invalid date
    ...die Saterdag oortyd te werk en behulpsaam te wees met die vervoer van die J nuwe werktuigkundige se meubels. Indien Meyer reeds voor die 1985 (4) SA p592 Van Heerden A ongeluk vir die werktuigkundiges gesê het dat geen oortyd oor naweke gewerk moes word nie, was die respondent nie daarvan b......
  • S v Khubeka
    • South Africa
    • Invalid date
    ...was constitutional or E not. [At 260i–261b.] Cases cited S v Maputle and Another 2003 (2) SACR 15 (SCA): applied F S v Pakkies 1985 (4) SA 592 (TkS): S v Phiri 2005 (2) SACR 476 (T): applied S v Stevens 1961 (3) SA 518 (C): applied. Case Information Application for special entries during th......
4 cases
  • S v Maputle and Another
    • South Africa
    • Invalid date
    ...1961 (4) SA 752 (A): referred to C S v Mthembu and Others 1988 (1) SA 145 (A): dicta at 155C - D & 155G - H applied S v Pakkies 1985 (4) SA 592 (TkS): referred to S v Papiyana 1986 (2) PH H115 (A): applied S v Rens 1996 (1) SACR 105 (CC) (1996 (1) SA 1218; 1996 (2) BCLR 155): dictum in para......
  • S v Maputle and Another
    • South Africa
    • Supreme Court of Appeal
    • 26 March 2003
    ...called as a witness, shall be asked whether he has been so convicted.' [5] For example, S v Stevens 1961 (3) SA 518 (C); S v Pakkies 1985 (4) SA 592 (TkS). [6] Although contained in a minority judgment, the passage quoted accords with the view of the majority. See also Key v Attorney-Genera......
  • Senator Versekeringsmaatskappy Bpk v Sibeko
    • South Africa
    • Invalid date
    ...die Saterdag oortyd te werk en behulpsaam te wees met die vervoer van die J nuwe werktuigkundige se meubels. Indien Meyer reeds voor die 1985 (4) SA p592 Van Heerden A ongeluk vir die werktuigkundiges gesê het dat geen oortyd oor naweke gewerk moes word nie, was die respondent nie daarvan b......
  • S v Khubeka
    • South Africa
    • Invalid date
    ...was constitutional or E not. [At 260i–261b.] Cases cited S v Maputle and Another 2003 (2) SACR 15 (SCA): applied F S v Pakkies 1985 (4) SA 592 (TkS): S v Phiri 2005 (2) SACR 476 (T): applied S v Stevens 1961 (3) SA 518 (C): applied. Case Information Application for special entries during th......

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