S v Ramadzanga

JurisdictionSouth Africa
JudgeLe Roux CJ and Van Der Spuy AJ
Judgment Date13 July 1987
Citation1988 (2) SA 816 (V)
Hearing Date13 July 1987
CourtVenda Supreme Court

Le Roux CJ:

The accused is a male juvenile whose age is given in the charge sheet as 16 years. He was charged with three counts of D housebreaking with intent to steal and theft and a fourth count of theft only. He pleaded guilty to three counts, two involving housebreaking and the theft count, and not guilty on the one count of housebreaking. The magistrate questioned him in terms of s 112(1)(b) of the Criminal Procedure Act 51 of 1977 on his pleas of guilty and, correctly in my view, convicted him on those three counts. The trial proceeded on his E plea of not guilty and, after the State had led the evidence of the complainant and she had been cross-examined by the accused, it closed its case. The accused elected not to testify after his rights were explained to him and was thereafter duly found guilty. It turned out that the accused had no previous convictions and, after hearing his F address in mitigation, the magistrate took all four counts together for purposes of sentence and imposed a term of four months' imprisonment on the accused.

When the matter came up for automatic review, I asked the magistrate whether he had considered the advisability of obtaining a pre-sentence report from a welfare officer with the object of establishing the home G background of the accused. I also requested him to inform me whether a parent or guardian was present during the trial. The magistrate replied that he had erred in trying the case in that he had considered the accused to be over 21 years and had failed to check the charge sheet when trying the case. (I find this statement difficult to accept as the magistrate noted on the record a statement by the accused to the H following effect:

'I am an orphan. I am a herdboy. I am the only person to assist my grandmother. I am 16 years of age. I am not employed. I am not attending school because I don't have money to buy books.')

What does seem clear, however, is that the magistrate did not deal with the accused as a juvenile offender. He now suggests that the I conviction and sentence should be set aside on this ground.

The Attorney-General has expressed the view that, as the age of the accused was not an element of the crime, the convictions would not be vitiated by a failure to determine the age in terms of s 337. He also gave it as his opinion that, although s 74 of the Act makes provision for the attendance of a parent or guardian of a juvenile under 18 years J at the trial,

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8 practice notes
  • Recognition of a parent-child testimonial privilege in South African Criminal Procedure: Lessons from the United States of America
    • South Africa
    • South African Criminal Law Journal No. , August 2019
    • 27 May 2019
    ...not assist the child in criminal 74 Criminal Procedure Act 51 of 1977.75 See, for example, S v L 1988 (4) SA 757 (C); S v Ramagaza 1988 (2) SA 816 (V); S v Gibson 1979 (4) SA 115 (D); Khumbusa v S 1977 (1) SA 394 (N); S v Assel 1984 (1) SA 402 (C).76 Euroshipping Corporation of Monrovia v M......
  • S v N
    • South Africa
    • Invalid date
    ...Act are peremptory. They are C intended to protect the interests of an immature accused who appears before court. (See S v Ramadzanga 1988 (2) SA 816 (V) at 818B-819E.) Subsection (3) of s 73 of the Criminal Procedure Act creates a right for an accused under the age of 18 years to be assist......
  • S v M and Another
    • South Africa
    • Invalid date
    ...(1) SA 264 (N): applied S v N 1997 (1) SACR 84 (Tk): applied S v Peterson en 'n Ander 2001 (1) SACR 16 (SCA): applied G S v Ramadzanga 1988 (2) SA 816 (V): S v Z en Vier Ander Sake 1999 (1) SACR 427 (E): applied. Legislation cited Statutes The Criminal Procedure Act 51 of 1977, ss 73(3) and......
  • S v M and Another
    • South Africa
    • Transkei Division
    • 25 February 2003
    ...who is not assisted, to plead to serious charges. See S v Gibson NO and Others 1979 (4) B SA 115 (A) at 138B - C; S v Ramadzanga 1988 (2) SA 816 (V); S v N 1997 (1) SACR 84 (Tk). Non-compliance with the provisions of ss 73 and 74 does not, however, necessarily constitute a fatal irregularit......
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7 cases
  • S v N
    • South Africa
    • Invalid date
    ...Act are peremptory. They are C intended to protect the interests of an immature accused who appears before court. (See S v Ramadzanga 1988 (2) SA 816 (V) at 818B-819E.) Subsection (3) of s 73 of the Criminal Procedure Act creates a right for an accused under the age of 18 years to be assist......
  • S v M and Another
    • South Africa
    • Invalid date
    ...(1) SA 264 (N): applied S v N 1997 (1) SACR 84 (Tk): applied S v Peterson en 'n Ander 2001 (1) SACR 16 (SCA): applied G S v Ramadzanga 1988 (2) SA 816 (V): S v Z en Vier Ander Sake 1999 (1) SACR 427 (E): applied. Legislation cited Statutes The Criminal Procedure Act 51 of 1977, ss 73(3) and......
  • S v M and Another
    • South Africa
    • Transkei Division
    • 25 February 2003
    ...who is not assisted, to plead to serious charges. See S v Gibson NO and Others 1979 (4) B SA 115 (A) at 138B - C; S v Ramadzanga 1988 (2) SA 816 (V); S v N 1997 (1) SACR 84 (Tk). Non-compliance with the provisions of ss 73 and 74 does not, however, necessarily constitute a fatal irregularit......
  • S v S EN Andere
    • South Africa
    • Invalid date
    ...beskuldigde deur sy ouer of voog E bygestaan word. (Vergelyk S v Gibson NO and Others 1979 (4) SA 115 (D) op 138B-C; S v Ramadzanga 1988 (2) SA 816 (V) en Khumbusa v The State and Another 1977 (1) SA 394 (N).) Dit volg dat dit die hof se plig is om seker te maak dat die plig om ouers te waa......
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